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Andy Barr and Ben Chandler debate immigration issues

September 29, 2010 | | Comments 35
Republican Andy Barr, left, is challenging U.S. Rep. Ben Chandler, D-Versailles, in Kentucky's 6th Congressional District.

Republican Andy Barr, left, is challenging U.S. Rep. Ben Chandler, D-Versailles, in Kentucky

Welcome to the Bluegrass Politics Debate. Each Wednesday and Thursday through the end of September, the candidates for Kentucky’s 6th Congressional District seat — U.S. Rep. Ben Chandler, D-Versailles, and Republican lawyer Andy Barr of Lexington — will debate a topic chosen by the Lexington Herald-Leader.

The candidates ask and answer the questions. Questions are limited to 35 words. Answers, which will be posted online by 6 p.m. on Wednesdays, are limited to 75 words. Rebuttals, which will be posted online by 6 p.m. on Thursdays, are limited to 35 words.

The entire debate will appear in the Sunday City|Region section of the Herald-Leader, as space allows.

Week 8 topic: Immigration

Barr’s question for Chandler: Since 2007, you’ve approved enough spending to increase the publicly-held debt from $4.9 to $9 trillion. Why did you oppose a May 7, 2009 committee amendment to provide an additional $200 million for border security?

Chandler’s answer: Because protecting America is my top priority, I’ve consistently opposed amnesty for illegal immigrants and supported building a fence and sending additional troops to the border. Your attack is deceptive. I’ve repeatedly supported dramatic funding increases to secure our borders, and voted against this amendment because it would have stripped funding from our troops’ rebuilding of Iraq and Afghanistan and from our response to the deadly H1N1 virus outbreak. Are you against these important efforts?

Barr’s rebuttal: We need more than lip service. We need a Congressman who will consistently vote for border security and enforcing our immigration laws so states don’t have to do the job for the federal government.

Chandler’s question for Barr: In these tough economic times, illegal immigration takes critical jobs from American citizens. Will you pledge to support increased funding as I have for the E-Verify program which checks the work eligibility of potential employees?

Barr’s answer: On June 24, 2008, you voted against extending the E-Verify program. On June 12, 2009, you voted against an amendment that would have made the E-Verify program permanent. Then, on July 17, 2009, you voted against a ban on funds being used to delay the implementation of a requirement that federal contractors use the E-Verify program. You talk about supporting E-Verify, but unlike you, I will actually vote consistently in favor of it.

Chandler’s rebuttal: Funding I supported improved E-Verify, slashed the error rate and reduced costs. Before these improvements, you would’ve been irresponsibly locking in a system that hurt small businesses and let illegal immigrants slip through the cracks.

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  1. beverlyclementines says:

    interesting that Chandler has not responded to letters written to him regarding border security and on the deportation of illegals who have committed crimes. I’m just saying.

  2. Tommy Caudill says:

    Austan Goolsbee spends 120 seconds on a whiteboard to explain how your tax cuts are being held hostage http://ow.ly/2Ml3b

  3. Tommy Caudill says:

    Austan Goolsbee is so hot! Here’s a video showing him working out.

  4. Tommy Caudill says:

    You’re so funny I almost laughed.

  5. Jeff Lewis says:

    To the readers of these comments,

    Tommy Caudill is a real person, who writes many intelligent and well-thought-out comments. I believe he wrote the second comment above.

    The person who wrote the third comment stole Tommy Caudill’s name, because the software for the blog doesn’t require registration. (I mean the person who says “Here’s a video…” but there is no video.)

    Good job, Tea Partiers! As you abandon every principle of fair play and civil discourse, you make it easier for other people to identify you.

    A month ago you were on here arguing and debating. Now you seem to be giving up. I wonder why.

  6. Tommy Caudill says:

    Gee whilikers, I love it so when serious minded Democrats get their panties in a wad.

  7. Carl says:

    We have a referendum fomenting which is a call to voters to vote out incumbents and career politicians. You politicians out there need to get your heads straight and learn how to be truthful for once in your miserable lives, start acting like the public servants you claim to be. Do you comprehend that Chandler? I don\’t understand why Ben Chandler makes this junk up when it is so easy to see how he voted. Nuts!

  8. Tommy Caudill says:

    Would the real Tommy Caudill please stand up?

  9. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    jefflewis, please do not sully our name byusing the term tea partiers. you have no clue if tommycaudill 1, 2 or 3 is a member of the party of tea. nor do you know if he is a real person. how do we know if you are a real person?

    that video he (tommy what’s his real name caudill) showed was factually correct but a slimy presentation of the issue and a total spin job.

  10. gunner says:

    When White House economic adviser Austan Goolsbee was asked about the net 280,000 jobs lost — not created — over the past three months, he answered, “The vice president was talking about the summer of recovery in reference to the Recovery Act, that you would see the creation of a series of infrastructure and other projects ramping up over the summer, and you did see that.”

    They had never planned any recovery in the job market, you see — they had merely announced that they would spend the money in the recovery bill, and that’s why they called that spending a recovery summer.

  11. The Real Tommy Caudill says:

    Thank you Jeff.

  12. Tommy Caudill says:

    It’s just like my grandma always said- you can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

  13. Tommy Caudill says:

    Hey gunner, it’s good to see you back. I thought maybe you went to the outhouse and the hogs ate you.

  14. Jeff Lewis says:

    To the fake “Tommy” -

    We’re not girls. We don’t wear panties. And if we did – there wouldn’t be any room for them to get “in a wad”.

    Maybe you should look closer. It sounds like maybe what you thought was in your teabag fell out.

    To teabagger2514 (hey, I’m not making these names up) -

    a “factually correct presentation” that was at the same time “slimy” and a “total spin job”?

    Honey, you don’t have to worry about my “sullying” anything about you Tea Partiers. You are among the happy few who are impossible to insult.

  15. mommy caudill says:

    leave my boy alone. he cannot help himself. With friends like jEfFlEwIs, he doesn’t need any more enemies.

    anyways, ben chandler has alwasy been for strong enforcement of the border security, has voted for extra funding for the “wall” and fence, and has never employed an illegal alien as a housekeeper { which is more than I can say for Meg Whitman and Tim Geitner}

  16. Tommy Caudill says:

    Jeff, you’re such a man. Want to come over and watch videos?

  17. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    Factually correct: high income earners will get a large dollar amount in tax cuts if the tax cuts had been retained.

    Slimy and spinny:
    – the figures should be shown in percentages, rather than dollar amounts as that unit of measurement has more in common among all tax payers.
    – the video does not reveal that those few people at the top (earning the highest income) actually pay for almost all of the people at the bottom. The top 1% of earners pay 39% of income taxes collected (IRS, 2008 figures)
    – this ghoulsby guy says that tax cuts are “expensive.” He actually thinks that taxes he wants to collect “belong” to the govt. In reality, it is their money, NOT the governmentos!!! This is a fallacious argumento. For those without a good understanding of our property rights protected by our constitution, it is an easy sell/spin/manipulation. For those who believe in big government and heavy handed control, like TommyCaudill (the real one), it simply sounds good and righteous.

  18. tommyhilfigercaudill says:

    the other thing the video says is that tax cuts will not stimulate the economy. another bad “agrumento”. Everyone agrees with that, “from all around the country.” But what Goolsby does not say is that taxes were not implemented to stimulate (or slow down) the economy. That has no place in the discussion.

  19. dhagy says:

    Barr accusing Chandler of “lip service.” Pot, meet kettle.

  20. Jeff Lewis says:

    Teabagger2514 – you keep saying “we” and “ours”, but how come there’s nobody standing with you? And how come you can barely speak English?

    To the faker – the boy who cried wolf got in trouble and nobody helped. The boy who has no real name might end up answering to a number.

    To “Mommy” – I bet I know who your mommy is now. We’re Democrats, tonto, and we defend Chandler on this blog.

    Leave it to these guys to even get that wrong.

  21. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    YOU are a democrat? You’re kidding me!

    I suppose that explains why you defend Chandler on this blog – because he is in your party. Not that he is any good for YOU people, but he has the same party grouping.

    Are you an English professor, or just a condescending in general, better than everyone else, commander of the blogoshpere?

  22. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    you can swing a sword in the arena of posting comments, I\’ll grant you that.

    No argument with my points though. That says it all right there, dontcha bet

  23. Jeff Lewis says:

    The top 1% do not “pay for” low-income people. For one thing, low-income earners have most often already paid through payroll, sales, and other taxes and fees that are not progressive (if you know what that means).

    For another thing, without the people at the bottom, there is no top. If you got them to let you ship out all the people you don’t like – they’d ship in cheaper workers the next week. Nobody’s on your side. You know zip about the Constitution, don’t even try.

    And in general we try to avoid wasting time answering people who glom onto others’ screen names, and people who write things like “governmento”, “argumento”, or “agrumento”.

    But today’s a slow day.

    What’s the number? Your Rupp tickets?

  24. Tommy Caudill says:

    Hey ol’ Jeffy Lewis, do you think there’s only one person on earth named Tommy Caudill? And I’ll betcha there might be another Jeff Lewis if you know what I mean.

  25. The Real Jeff L says:

    It’s multiple personality disorder. Yep, gettin’ a check every month from the gov’t. Rain or shine. Kids get one too.

  26. Jeff Lewis says:

    It’s an honor to be spit on by aquatic microorganisms like yourselves.

    Now I just need one of those things they have when you’re coming out of the pool, something to wipe the bottoms of my boots on.

    Good thing you were on tiptoes.

  27. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    For another thing, without the people at the top, there is no bottom.

    The top 1% “do not pay for” the people at the bottom because those people paid other taxes? heh heeee hehe

    Those “other taxes” are not substitutes for income taxes; those other taxes are designed to pay for completely separate parts of the govt. Stated another way, the top 1% pay 39% of income taxes that are used by those people at at the bottom. That way you don’t have to use the word “for.”

  28. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    “spat” not “spit”

  29. teabagger2514_a_section 42 says:

    tot he fake tommy caudill – it was a hoot today. C ya Later

  30. Tommy Caudill says:

    Same here teabagger.

  31. Wills says:

    Andy Barr should be behind bars.

    What a crook!

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  33. Henriette Holder says:

    Chandler obviously has no problems with lieing and lieing and lieing! Amazing really. I’ll vote for Barr.

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