Comments on: Stumbo: No pay raise likely for state workers and teachers

Comments on: Stumbo: No pay raise likely for state workers and teachers http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/ Covering Kentucky politics and government Mon, 21 May 2012 07:56:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: affiliate http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-50809 affiliate Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:43:01 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-50809 <strong>I’ve just started off a blog, the knowledge you give on this site has aided me extremely. Thank you for all your time & work....</strong> Of course, what a great site and informative posts, I will add backlink - bookmark this site? Regards, Reader... I’ve just started off a blog, the knowledge you give on this site has aided me extremely. Thank you for all your time & work….

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]]> By: citizen http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-33057 citizen Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:22:55 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-33057 Lets try this and see if we can save some money in State Government, Introduce this bill folks! to get a Senator to introduce this bill in the US Senate and a Representative to introduce a similar bill in the US House. These people will become American hero's.. Thanks, A Fellow American *********************************** Congressional Reform Act of 2010 1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below. A. Two Six year Senate terms B. Six Two year House terms C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 2. No Tenure / No Pension: A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security: All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work. 4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. 8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 . The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work. Lets try this and see if we can save some money in State Government, Introduce this bill folks!
to get a Senator to introduce this bill in the US Senate and a Representative to introduce a similar bill in the US House. These people will become American hero’s..

Thanks,

A Fellow American

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Congressional Reform Act of 2010

1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

2. No Tenure / No Pension:

A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 .

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

]]> By: Bob http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32989 Bob Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:24:57 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32989 The Insurance Companies are getting raises STUMBO! My individual policy went up 32 percent this year or $900 a year for a $3500 deductible. No wonder this politicians in Washington do not want to have the same insurance as small business does. They know we get screwed. Not everyone works for a big company, a union or the government. It is my hope that Congress will have the guts to do away with the Antitrust exemption enjoyed by the Insurance Industry, so this will force competition between in companies. This is why there are 2 sometimes only 3 insurance companies in most states. Its government protection against competition. Every other business in the USA has to follow the Antitrust laws of the USA----why shouldnt the Insurance Industry? The Insurance Companies are getting raises STUMBO! My individual policy went up 32 percent this year or $900 a year for a $3500 deductible.
No wonder this politicians in Washington do not want to have the same insurance as small business does. They know we get screwed. Not everyone works for a big company, a union or the government.
It is my hope that Congress will have the guts to do away with the Antitrust exemption enjoyed by the Insurance Industry, so this will force competition between in companies. This is why there are 2 sometimes only 3 insurance companies in most states. Its government protection against competition. Every other business in the USA has to follow the Antitrust laws of the USA—-why shouldnt the Insurance Industry?

]]> By: johndoe http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32985 johndoe Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:34:25 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32985 I have one daughter teaching school in Tx and the other, who works for the AOC has been looking at Tx.. guess my old retired butt needs to start looking for a Realtor I have one daughter teaching school in Tx and the other, who works for the AOC has been looking at Tx.. guess my old retired butt needs to start looking for a Realtor

]]> By: Jill http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32983 Jill Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:08:07 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32983 well said AllFaiths--A real brain drain is unfolding in Kentucky. But it happened long time ago. Kentucky seems not needing brain. The most talented and brightest are leaving poor Kentucky which has little appreciation to skills, knowledges, and talents. And Kentucky is paying big price for short of brain. The new example is state personnel system that failed with tens of millions. No one tells the most importent reason is state doesn't have qualified professionals to negotiate and manage the project. If you look at major state projects, more or less you would find similar problems. well said AllFaiths–A real brain drain is unfolding in Kentucky. But it happened long time ago. Kentucky seems not needing brain. The most talented and brightest are leaving poor Kentucky which has little appreciation to skills, knowledges, and talents. And Kentucky is paying big price for short of brain. The new example is state personnel system that failed with tens of millions. No one tells the most importent reason is state doesn’t have qualified professionals to negotiate and manage the project. If you look at major state projects, more or less you would find similar problems.

]]> By: AllFaiths http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32981 AllFaiths Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:28:37 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32981 Evidently "Mister Stumbo and Company" don't understand that NO increase in pay for state employees, means the affected person actually realizes a DECREASE in their take home buying power! Try telling the grocer, the landlord, the utility company, the day care center, and others that you will pay them no more for the goods and services you receive this year than you did last year, "because I am a state employee, and they have decided that I don't even need a cost of living increase"! Good Luck on that one! A simple 'across the board' cost of living increase, reflecting the admitted rate of inflation in America over the past year, would be the only REAL lack of increase for state employees; in other words, that would leave the affected employees 'just breaking even' with a year ago. To not offer a COL increase to state employees, at the very least, is to cut employee's pay! PERIOD! THEN when additionally you raise the amount of money deducted from paychecks for employee's contribution to the state insurance plans, (while lowering the benefits of those plans), Kentucky REALLY is cutting the pay of all their state employees, .. . . "big time". "Mister Stumbo and Company" need to get in touch with reality! They should also realize that not all "voting decisions" take place in the polling booth, lots of state employees will vote against "Stumbo" and his ilk, by voting "with their feet"! A real brain drain is unfolding in Kentucky, 'as we speak', as those with optional opportunity make decisions to leave their state jobs with Kentucky, and seek better pay, and fairer treatment elsewhere. In the end their departure from the Commonwealth is Kentucky's loss, all due to the short-sightedness of those making decisions in Frankfort and the legislature! Evidently “Mister Stumbo and Company” don’t understand that NO increase in pay for state employees, means the affected person actually realizes a DECREASE in their take home buying power!

Try telling the grocer, the landlord, the utility company, the day care center, and others that you will pay them no more for the goods and services you receive this year than you did last year, “because I am a state employee, and they have decided that I don’t even need a cost of living increase”! Good Luck on that one!

A simple ‘across the board’ cost of living increase, reflecting the admitted rate of inflation in America over the past year, would be the only REAL lack of increase for state employees; in other words, that would leave the affected employees ‘just breaking even’ with a year ago. To not offer a COL increase to state employees, at the very least, is to cut employee’s pay! PERIOD!

THEN when additionally you raise the amount of money deducted from paychecks for employee’s contribution to the state insurance plans, (while lowering the benefits of those plans), Kentucky REALLY is cutting the pay of all their state employees, .. . . “big time”.

“Mister Stumbo and Company” need to get in touch with reality! They should also realize that not all “voting decisions” take place in the polling booth, lots of state employees will vote against “Stumbo” and his ilk, by voting “with their feet”! A real brain drain is unfolding in Kentucky, ‘as we speak’, as those with optional opportunity make decisions to leave their state jobs with Kentucky, and seek better pay, and fairer treatment elsewhere.

In the end their departure from the Commonwealth is Kentucky’s loss, all due to the short-sightedness of those making decisions in Frankfort and the legislature!

]]> By: ellsworth_toohey http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32979 ellsworth_toohey Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:37:34 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32979 John caffee, I have started a movement, and am gathering steam to not vote for any incumbents, rep or dem. Never! It is the only way to start fresh, minimize graft, corruption, pandering, bribes, etc. The money will eventually corrupt again, but we might have some time to correct things in the mean time. Have the guts to stand for it. Vote against your own party for a new guy come November. We'll all do it, and we'll see a change. Term limits are a possibility, if we choose it. Just vote for the non-incumbent. Have the courage! John caffee,
I have started a movement, and am gathering steam to not vote for any incumbents, rep or dem. Never! It is the only way to start fresh, minimize graft, corruption, pandering, bribes, etc. The money will eventually corrupt again, but we might have some time to correct things in the mean time. Have the guts to stand for it. Vote against your own party for a new guy come November. We’ll all do it, and we’ll see a change. Term limits are a possibility, if we choose it. Just vote for the non-incumbent. Have the courage!

]]> By: john caffee http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32978 john caffee Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:09:06 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32978 I am a democrat and i will not vote for anybody that in office right now. I am a democrat and i will not vote for anybody that in office right now.

]]> By: daniel http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32962 daniel Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:59:31 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32962 The Senate already voted the casino amendment 2 weeks ago and not a single Democrat voted for it. All Republicans voted for it; therefore , it needed 23 votes and only got 22.. for a constitutional amendment. The Democrats blew it off and they can tell the state employees why they do not get a raise.. The Senate already voted the casino amendment 2 weeks ago and not a single Democrat voted for it. All Republicans voted for it; therefore , it needed 23 votes and only got 22.. for a constitutional amendment. The Democrats blew it off and they can tell the state employees why they do not get a raise..

]]> By: James http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/02/12/stumbo-state-workers-and-teachers-likely-not-to-get-pay-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-32960 James Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:40:25 +0000 http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/?p=10351#comment-32960 I feel terrible for all the state employees and teachers who are not getting raises while living costs go up. Teachers in particular are exempt from overtime and work numerous hours while being paid a flat salary. If you break down the hours worked and the pay received some would barely make minimum wage. What a sad state Kentucky is to treat such a valuble commidity so poorly. Kentucky politicians are by far the worst I have ever seen, hands down. Good luck to all the state employees and teachers, I wish the best for you all. I feel terrible for all the state employees and teachers who are not getting raises while living costs go up. Teachers in particular are exempt from overtime and work numerous hours while being paid a flat salary. If you break down the hours worked and the pay received some would barely make minimum wage. What a sad state Kentucky is to treat such a valuble commidity so poorly. Kentucky politicians are by far the worst I have ever seen, hands down. Good luck to all the state employees and teachers, I wish the best for you all.

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