Comments on: Horse group launches ad touting Democrat in special election

By: Buck Feshear

Buck Feshear — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:57:16 +0000

If Kentucky’s horse racing industry cannot survive on its own without being propped up by some gimmicky solution, it deserves to fail.

Watching a horse race on TV is like watching a tennis match, or a golf match, or a soccer game, or bowling, or championship poker, or paint dry.

By: Big Ben 4 liberty

Big Ben 4 liberty — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:06:32 +0000

So after reading the above debate between Sherry and Susan, I have concluded that Jodie Haydon, the recycled Democrat partisan hack (why do you DEMs keep recycling these failed, corrupt politicians?) is now a whore for the illegal alien-loving horse-racing industry in this state. An industry that foolishly believes legalized casino gambling will somehow magically stave off its continuing decline rather than actual real pro-growth (as in non-Keynesian and non-Marxist) economic policies which would help everyone out, the horse-racing industry included.

By: Sherry

Sherry — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:33:37 +0000

Jimbo–I don’t have anything more to add to a discussion of legal vs. illegal, but I did get a wry chuckle out of your comment about Social Security. Heck, I’m Ohio-born and bred, US-of-A through and through, and I’M paying for Social Security I’ll never get! I predict it’ll be bankrupt long before I’m eligible to draw on it, especially if they keep raising the age of eligibility.

Your point is well taken about the Harley jobs. It might take all day to list companies that sent jobs overseas because workers in some other countries will work for less than workers here, for whatever reason. A whole lot changed when “global economy” entered the national lexicon. But workers have been supplanted by others willing to work for less forever, I guess–reference the Great Depression, the influx of immigrants in the late 1800s/early 1900s, the beginning of unions . . . always difficult, nothing new.

By: Susan

Susan — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:22:29 +0000

Sherry, you didn’t come out and say it was fine, but you seemed to dismiss it and negate my point. While you didn’t say it was fine, you certainly have not exactly said “it’s wrong but it happens”. I suppose I could be the one to call and report such abuses, but others have done just that, and nothing ever happens. For the record, had I called and complained, I sure wouldn’t admit it here on a public forum. Like I said, people with deep pockets that contribute to those in Frankfort and Washington are going to keep their cheap help. Corruption. I’m not angry, but its frustrating. I’m just saying what happens time and time again on the back side as well as the farms, not saying you have anything to do with it. Am I not allowed to voice to other people what I and many American workers have had happen to us? I suppose I need to get behind Haydon’s competition and prod him to do something about it.

By: jimbo

jimbo — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:17:04 +0000

I would guess that the proportion of legal to illegal is something like 10:90. Yes, the phony papers are readily available. And yes, these folk work for less. But guess what? Scroll up a bit and read about Harley coming to KY. Same deal. We in Ky work for less so York loses the factory. Sorry about your luck. And guess who is the major co-conspirator in this whole charade? The federal government. The majority of these workers are paying FICA and Med premiums…but they’ll never collect because these are bogus numbers on bogus names. But the gov cashes the deposits, sends out the occasional “do not match” letters, and the workers are paying for social securty that they’ll never get. Is this a great country or what?

By: Sherry

Sherry — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:15:14 +0000

Susan–No one said low wages and falsely documented workers are “fine.” Did I say so? I said only that it happens–one group is willing to work for less than another, and history is full of such incidents and their consequences. And the law does indeed provide sanctions against illegal immigrants–that’s a fact. So if you believe those sanctions are not properly applied, exercise your rights as a citizen and take your concerns to people who are responsible to apply them. Better to harness your anger and spend it with purpose, not argue with someone who has no argument with you.

By: John

John — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:54:37 +0000

I am sure that they won’t leave it in the hands of the racing industry, per se. They would obviously bring in people who know what they are doing. The thing is, Williams is trying to delay delay delay and it will be refected in the polls on how we feel about it. They need to vote on the slots.

By: Susan

Susan — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:26:47 +0000

Sherry,
So its fine that the industry pays the wages they do, that they wouldn’t get away with if it weren’t for the immigrants? No, that’s just wrong, and its not fair to legal citizens,who can’t afford to work for those wages. With what I see being paid for these horses at the sales, its discouraging for those of us, who horses are our only real skills.
“Illegal and sanctions apply”? Then please explain to me why so many illegals are getting away with it, both on the track and the farms. Does INS need a call to check into it? Somehow I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Too many important people with deep pockets contributing to election campaigns, are enjoying paying low wages.

By: stiversjim

stiversjim — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:10:16 +0000

Lowell Reese at Roll Call has the numbers on the politics and numbers concerning the gambling issue,

Here is the read:

http://kentuckyrollcall.blogspot.com/2009/07/slots-no-super-election-weapon.html

By: stiversjim

stiversjim — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:58:48 +0000

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